Tuesday, October 30, 2012

The Deen Show: Top 10 Reasons Why Jesus is NOT God with Joshua Evans



- Jesus is one of the mightiest messengers that God sent to humanity. He was sent to the children of Israel.
- Did mighty miracles with God’s permission ex. healed the sick, the blind, the lepers, and gave life to the dead.
- Jesus was the word of God on earth.
- Islam is the only other religion where it is a tenant of faith to believe in Jesus and everything he did. Cannot be a Muslim without belief in Jesus!

FACTS
1. Muslims loves Jesus
2. Muslims believe in Jesus
3. Jesus was a messenger of god
 
#10- God cannot be born Jesus was born (without a father, was a miracle)

1. God didn’t come into existence, he always existed
2. God was not born, was not created
3. God had no beginning, Jesus had a beginning

#9- No explicit verses esp. in Bible that says Jesus is God
FACTS
1. Jesus never said, “I am God.”
2. Jesus never said, “Worship me.”
3. No explicit statement anywhere.

- You can make the Bible/Quran say anything you want if you pick and choose and interpret! 
#8- No man has seen God at anytime
 
FACTS
1. No one has ever seen God.
2. People saw Jesus
3. No one can see god in this life

#7- This was not the belief of early Christians
FACTS
1. Jesus never taught the trinity
2. The word trinity is nowhere in the bible
3. Trinity is something man made

- Paul was the first person to make up the trinity doctrine and say to believe in it. Paul never saw Jesus, walked or talked with Jesus. Paul claimed that he had a vision on the way to Damascus when he was actually going to persecute Christians. Paul was the first person to come up with the title of Christian, trinity, godship of Jesus.
#6- Jesus ate, slept, and prayed

-The nature of god is being self sufficient.
FACTS
1. God doesn’t eat, sleep, or pray, etc.
2. Jesus ate, slept, and prayed.
3. Jesus is a messenger, not god.
 
-If god needed something, he wouldn’t be god!
-Jesus ate, slept and drank. If not, he would have died. He is not self sufficient. God is self sufficient. Can’t be both at the same time!
Jesus would pray when he had an issue.
To the disciples, “I need to go pray.” “Wait here while I pray.”
1. Matthew 26:36 “Then cometh Jesus with them unto a place called Gethsemane, and saith unto the disciples, Sit ye here, while I go and pray yonder.”
2. Mark 14:32 “And they came to a place which was named Gethsemane: and he saith to his disciples, Sit ye here, while I shall pray.”
He would go to the temple and prostrate with his face on the ground.
Matthew 26:39 “And he went a little further, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.”
- Shows that he is in need of something greater than himself. Prayer shows that one is in need of something greater than you. If Jesus was God, he would have told people to pray to him, he wouldn’t have to pray.
#5- Jesus claimed that God’s knowledge was greater than his.
Jesus was asked about the hour, Day of Judgment.
Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.”

- If Jesus was god, he would have known that.
If the trinity was true, (if God was God, Jesus was God, and the holy spirit was god) then how can one know the same info and not the others if they are the same person. 
- If god knows the hour, Jesus and the holy spirit should know the hour.
FACTS
1. God knows everything.
2. Jesus didn’t know everything
3. Jesus is a messenger, not god.
John 14:28 “Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.”

- Jesus admitted that father is great than him. If they are both god, than how can one be greater than the other.
- Cannot explain the concept of trinity to a child and have them understand it. gods way of life is for everyone. Can be explained to someone who is illiterate, PhD, child, deaf person.
- 1+1+1=1?
- Bible- “God is not the author of confusion.” Trinity is confusing!
#4- Jesus explicitly states that he is NOT god.
John 17:3 “And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.”
#3- Son of God?
FACTS
1. God doesn’t die
2. God doesn’t have children
3. God doesn’t have human needs

- Puppies, kittens…baby Gods?
#2- God cannot change
Malachi 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

- God’s nature doesn’t change, is not subjected to the same laws he created ex. time. He doesn’t get old, tired, sleepy. God created sun and air, but he doesn’t need its warmth, doesn’t get hot or cold.
- “God can to anything.” incorrect!
- He only does what is permeate to his nature. God can do anything except that which would make him less than god ex. lie, murder, be unjust etc. He cannot go to heaven or hell, cant die and wasn’t born. For this reason, Islam has attributes for god.
FACTS
1. Only god is perfect
2. God doesn’t change
3. God’s message has always been the same

- Everyone is a slave to something ex. boss, money etc.
 
FACTS
1. Jesus called on god saying Allaha
2. Allah means the one true god in Arabic
3. Arabic Jews and Christians use the name Allah

- Humans (and jinn) are the only creations that God gave a free will to!
#1- God is the only one to be worshipped!

- God is the object of worship. Give devotion to, make prayers to, sacrifice to, charity in the name of
Matthew 15:9 “But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.”

- ex. trinity, Jesus being god.
What God Wants From You!
1. Worship God alone and not his creations.
2. Obey God and not your desires
3. Submit and surrender to God alone in peace.

Monday, October 8, 2012

God in Christianity and Islam

Going back to the topic Islam vs. Other Religions, my third post is a research paper I wrote related to this topic and can be found on my writing blog.

Click below for the direct link http://awritersworld-sf.blogspot.com/2012/09/god-in-christianity-and-islam.html